Question for engine gurus

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I notice the new TL has a 3.7 liter 305 hp engine as an option.

Is it possible that this new engine is close enough in size to our NSX engines that a swap could be considered?

Jim
 
easier to do a 3.6-3.8 stroker motor as is:wink: do a search:smile:
 
If one flips the engine around so the flywheel is on the correct end, wouldn't that also get the engine spinning the right direction? I'm too tired to really think about the swap, though.

Miner

Actually, no:). The engine still rotates in the same direction, which would give you 6 reverse gears;).

The NSX engine spins clockwise. The TL engine spins counter-clockwise.

Regards,
LarryB
 
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Stupid question, but clockwise as viewed from the front or viewed from the rear?? Perspective matters for things like this.
 
Stupid question, but clockwise as viewed from the front or viewed from the rear?? Perspective matters for things like this.

Looking at the crankshaft pulley head on. So in the NSX you would be looking from the passenger side at the crank pulley. Clockwise it is:). This is the opposite of all front wheel drive configurations, which turn counter-clockwise.

This always screws me up when doing a timing belt on an Accord;)!!!!

Regards,
LarryB
 
My thinking was that if Honda had kept to a modular type V6 block with similar engine mounts that we could use later model engines as a base
for upgrading our powerplants.

This would be similar to what GM did with the small block Chevy engine.

Once the auto wreckers had an inventory of newer generation V6 engines the cost would be reasonable etc.

Alas with the rotation difference it's not to be.

I guess it's CTSC or bore/stroke the original units

Jim
 
My thinking was that if Honda had kept to a modular type V6 block with similar engine mounts that we could use later model engines as a base
for upgrading our powerplants.

This would be similar to what GM did with the small block Chevy engine.

Once the auto wreckers had an inventory of newer generation V6 engines the cost would be reasonable etc.

Alas with the rotation difference it's not to be.

I guess it's CTSC or bore/stroke the original units

Jim
I enjoy thinking about such things, but it's best to consider how few modern Hondas are RWD, and thus not strongly linked to the rest of the corporate lineage.

Brian
 
How hard would it be to make a motor spin in the opposite direction? What would be the problems? I'm guessing that the cams would be all screwed up in the timing and order that the valves would work?
 
How hard would it be to make a motor spin in the opposite direction? What would be the problems? I'm guessing that the cams would be all screwed up in the timing and order that the valves would work?
There's more. The timing belt tensioner's location is only appropriate for one direction of rotation, the water pump won't work right, nor will the oil pump. The list goes on.
 
Actually, no:). The engine still rotates in the same direction, which would give you 6 reverse gears;).

The NSX engine spins clockwise. The TL engine spins counter-clockwise.

Regards,
LarryB

That would only work for the French Army tanks with 6 reverse and 1 forward gears.:biggrin:
 
I just looked and on my 2nd gen TL, the gearbox is on the driver side and the front of the engine is towards the passenger side. And the engine turns clockwise as viewed from the passenger side. This would tell me both engines turn the same direction and are oriented the same way.

I know Accords and my original Acura (89 Legend Coupe) had the gearbox on the passenger side with the engine's front facing the driver's side. Their engines turned anti clockwise when viewed from the front of the engine.

Miner
 
I just looked and on my 2nd gen TL, the gearbox is on the driver side and the front of the engine is towards the passenger side. And the engine turns clockwise as viewed from the passenger side. This would tell me both engines turn the same direction and are oriented the same way.

I know Accords and my original Acura (89 Legend Coupe) had the gearbox on the passenger side with the engine's front facing the driver's side. Their engines turned anti clockwise when viewed from the front of the engine.

Miner

That being the case, thoeretically it could work, but as mentioned above there are many other issues, like mounting it to the trans. I did notr realize the 2nd gen has things setup this way. Good to know. Thanks


Regards,
LarryB
 
That being the case, thoeretically it could work, but as mentioned above there are many other issues, like mounting it to the trans. I did notr realize the 2nd gen has things setup this way. Good to know. Thanks


Regards,
LarryB

You're welcome. When this thread originally posted, my TL was in California with my brother, so I couldn't check at the time. I would never swap a J series SOHC engine into the NSX. But I might be willing to swap the 3.5 or 3.7 l engine of the 4th gen TL (along with a 6 sp) into my 2nd gen TL.

Realistically, I'm too busy to try the swap, but I would love to dig into it if I had the time.

Miner
 
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